Comments on: OSS More Expensive for Businesses http://www.computerdefense.org/2006/10/oss-more-expensive-for-businesses/ Sharing my thoughts with the world. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:58:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: .:Computer Defense:. » Odds and Ends http://www.computerdefense.org/2006/10/oss-more-expensive-for-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-4500 .:Computer Defense:. » Odds and Ends Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:18:05 +0000 http://www.computerdefense.org/?p=124#comment-4500 [...] Next on the list is an article about Novell being linked to a press release stating that the TCO for Microsoft products is less than Linux. I’m sure this article has irritated plenty of Linux advocates… however the statement is true… This was debated before when Microsoft released their large Microsoft costs less than Linux campaign… and the Microsoft TCO is less. Think about it, you purchase the Microsoft product… you have an IT person… your cost is their salary + the software cost.  All of your software ties in quickly and easily and install / configuration is simple and a breeze. Now take a look at Linux… There are less Linux people out there so you will probably pay more for your Admin. Now you have to pay for the software (enterprises run SuSE or RH… not as many go grab VectorLinux or Debian). Now you have to painstakingly install and configure everything… You don’t have the benefits of Active Directory… of your users being tied together… of software like Exchange… You may have a web based calendaring system… or thunderbird but the productivity just isn’t at the same level… Something is lost. In the end, when everything is factored in… Microsoft is cheaper… I’ve actually blogged on this subject in the past… feel free to jump back and read it. [...] [...] Next on the list is an article about Novell being linked to a press release stating that the TCO for Microsoft products is less than Linux. I’m sure this article has irritated plenty of Linux advocates… however the statement is true… This was debated before when Microsoft released their large Microsoft costs less than Linux campaign… and the Microsoft TCO is less. Think about it, you purchase the Microsoft product… you have an IT person… your cost is their salary + the software cost.  All of your software ties in quickly and easily and install / configuration is simple and a breeze. Now take a look at Linux… There are less Linux people out there so you will probably pay more for your Admin. Now you have to pay for the software (enterprises run SuSE or RH… not as many go grab VectorLinux or Debian). Now you have to painstakingly install and configure everything… You don’t have the benefits of Active Directory… of your users being tied together… of software like Exchange… You may have a web based calendaring system… or thunderbird but the productivity just isn’t at the same level… Something is lost. In the end, when everything is factored in… Microsoft is cheaper… I’ve actually blogged on this subject in the past… feel free to jump back and read it. [...]

]]> By: .:Computer Defense:. » http://www.computerdefense.org/2006/10/oss-more-expensive-for-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-267 .:Computer Defense:. » Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:26:03 +0000 http://www.computerdefense.org/?p=124#comment-267 [...] When I saw this, the first thing I thought was “Woohoo!” This has the potential to change things that I mentioned in a previous post. I thought the patent covenant for SuSE users and open-source, non-commercial developers was a great thing. It seems there are plenty of people that disagree. The anti-Microsoft crowed things this is the death of SuSE… To call Novell the new SCO is nothing but the words of a true linux zealot. These attacks on Novell and this agreement are the sign of little kids… anti-social, “using linux makes me cool” people. The potential for improvements and advances to Linux over the next five years is huge… [...] [...] When I saw this, the first thing I thought was “Woohoo!” This has the potential to change things that I mentioned in a previous post. I thought the patent covenant for SuSE users and open-source, non-commercial developers was a great thing. It seems there are plenty of people that disagree. The anti-Microsoft crowed things this is the death of SuSE… To call Novell the new SCO is nothing but the words of a true linux zealot. These attacks on Novell and this agreement are the sign of little kids… anti-social, “using linux makes me cool” people. The potential for improvements and advances to Linux over the next five years is huge… [...]

]]> By: .:Computer Defense:. » Windows vs Linux…. The ultimate waste of time… http://www.computerdefense.org/2006/10/oss-more-expensive-for-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-132 .:Computer Defense:. » Windows vs Linux…. The ultimate waste of time… Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:22:24 +0000 http://www.computerdefense.org/?p=124#comment-132 [...] I still want to see evidence on Windows costing 1/4 of the cost of a new computer… Regardless the TCO of Linux is generally higher than that of Windows when you add learning curve, training, etc… Software alone, however, can also be responsible (Another past blog posting) [...] [...] I still want to see evidence on Windows costing 1/4 of the cost of a new computer… Regardless the TCO of Linux is generally higher than that of Windows when you add learning curve, training, etc… Software alone, however, can also be responsible (Another past blog posting) [...]

]]> By: Mike Murray http://www.computerdefense.org/2006/10/oss-more-expensive-for-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Mike Murray Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:21:33 +0000 http://www.computerdefense.org/?p=124#comment-72 The zealots would use Mac. ;) Seriously,that's exactly the choice that many engineers are faced with as they move toward management - do you continue to fight with Linux and its substandard solutions for getting work done, or do you choose to use a more full-featured (and commercial) operating system? Why do you think you never saw me using Linux while I was at nCircle? When I was a VERT engineer and during my time in IT, my laptop was always running Linux. When my main functions each day became email-based, .DOC/.PPT/.XLS based and web-based rather than Python/C/ASPL/TCP-IP based, there was just no reason to stick with it - it was more painful than it was worth. And I would argue that anybody who says that the ideal of using their favorite OS is more important than getting work done on a daily basis is simply insane... too much Kool-Aid, not enough focus on what really matters. How's that for flame-bait? ;) The zealots would use Mac. ;)

Seriously,that’s exactly the choice that many engineers are faced with as they move toward management – do you continue to fight with Linux and its substandard solutions for getting work done, or do you choose to use a more full-featured (and commercial) operating system?

Why do you think you never saw me using Linux while I was at nCircle? When I was a VERT engineer and during my time in IT, my laptop was always running Linux. When my main functions each day became email-based, .DOC/.PPT/.XLS based and web-based rather than Python/C/ASPL/TCP-IP based, there was just no reason to stick with it – it was more painful than it was worth.

And I would argue that anybody who says that the ideal of using their favorite OS is more important than getting work done on a daily basis is simply insane… too much Kool-Aid, not enough focus on what really matters.

How’s that for flame-bait? ;)

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