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	<title>Comments on: Comments on Core Security&#8217;s Wonderware advisory</title>
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		<title>By: LonerVamp</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, wanted to add just one more thing. Third parties should really never get upset about responsible disclosure.  If *anyone* has a beef with the responsibility of a disclosure, the target organization should get first and final dibs on it. They have absolutely the most at stake in the situation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, wanted to add just one more thing. Third parties should really never get upset about responsible disclosure.  If *anyone* has a beef with the responsibility of a disclosure, the target organization should get first and final dibs on it. They have absolutely the most at stake in the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: LonerVamp</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2008/05/comments-on-core-security/comment-page-1/#comment-77417</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t help that we sometimes have security pros who, by their actions and complaints, would rather *feel* secure and not show everyone the vulnerabilities because it might make hackers out of the masses. They won&#039;t ever outright say that &quot;security by obscurity&quot; works [in a vacuum], but requests to stifle information exchange after a fix is available implies such an attitude. As if the information would be kept secret if the researcher hushed up... Uh huh. That&#039;s a mighty fine rose-colored world one could live in! &lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if one could work the line that such security pros don&#039;t have a hacker ethic? &lt;br /&gt;
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At the end of the day, if my security posture is weak enough that I have to worry about the disclosure level of vulnerabilities that may affect my environment, I&#039;m doing something wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#039;t help that we sometimes have security pros who, by their actions and complaints, would rather *feel* secure and not show everyone the vulnerabilities because it might make hackers out of the masses. They won&#039;t ever outright say that &quot;security by obscurity&quot; works [in a vacuum], but requests to stifle information exchange after a fix is available implies such an attitude. As if the information would be kept secret if the researcher hushed up&#8230; Uh huh. That&#039;s a mighty fine rose-colored world one could live in! </p>
<p>I wonder if one could work the line that such security pros don&#039;t have a hacker ethic? </p>
<p>At the end of the day, if my security posture is weak enough that I have to worry about the disclosure level of vulnerabilities that may affect my environment, I&#039;m doing something wrong.</p>
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