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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ve Become a Cyber Pan Handler</title>
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		<title>By: Marek Mackiewicz</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-210311</link>
		<dc:creator>Marek Mackiewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Tyler,
I am enjoying reading the information that has been set up on computerdefense.org.  I feel 
that you should pursue some legal action against the company as most of the time 
companies will take your &quot;minor&quot; or &quot;major&quot; threat seriously once legal action has been taken and work with you to come to a resolution.  In your case it seems you were in the right and if i am correct, if you have developed DVL and provided it to the public as a &#039;favor&#039; then i have all the power with you considering i did download the .iso after you provided us with the link here at Fanshawe Collge in London, Ontario.  If you are providing this software as an educational purpose then i strongly believe 1and1 has an obligation to continue to provide this service despite their miss-communication and simply &quot;suck up&quot; their &#039;possible&#039; losses as an attempt to allow the IT industry to continue it&#039;s efforts in providing free and informative software that allows students and experts to develop their skills and submit new information to the IT industry and continue it&#039;s ways of free information.  Free information works for all of us. This availability for free information is what has contributed to the amazing growth of the IT industry and has many times proven why IT is a &#039;team&#039; industry that works for the benefit of all.  It seems that you enjoy what you do and help others at the same time. Props to you and your efforts in passing new information to the IT community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Tyler,<br />
I am enjoying reading the information that has been set up on computerdefense.org.  I feel<br />
that you should pursue some legal action against the company as most of the time<br />
companies will take your &#8220;minor&#8221; or &#8220;major&#8221; threat seriously once legal action has been taken and work with you to come to a resolution.  In your case it seems you were in the right and if i am correct, if you have developed DVL and provided it to the public as a &#8216;favor&#8217; then i have all the power with you considering i did download the .iso after you provided us with the link here at Fanshawe Collge in London, Ontario.  If you are providing this software as an educational purpose then i strongly believe 1and1 has an obligation to continue to provide this service despite their miss-communication and simply &#8220;suck up&#8221; their &#8216;possible&#8217; losses as an attempt to allow the IT industry to continue it&#8217;s efforts in providing free and informative software that allows students and experts to develop their skills and submit new information to the IT industry and continue it&#8217;s ways of free information.  Free information works for all of us. This availability for free information is what has contributed to the amazing growth of the IT industry and has many times proven why IT is a &#8216;team&#8217; industry that works for the benefit of all.  It seems that you enjoy what you do and help others at the same time. Props to you and your efforts in passing new information to the IT community.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166178</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donation submitted! 
 
I&#039;ve used DVL in the past - thank you for your efforts :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donation submitted! </p>
<p>I&#039;ve used DVL in the past &#8211; thank you for your efforts <img src='http://www.computerdefense.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166095</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tyler we have used 1and1 what package are you on? I will go through my e-mail to see if I have the same letter and start an e-mail thread with them to see if they give me the same answer.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler we have used 1and1 what package are you on? I will go through my e-mail to see if I have the same letter and start an e-mail thread with them to see if they give me the same answer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: .:Computer Defense:. &#187; DVL Mirror Back Up</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166071</link>
		<dc:creator>.:Computer Defense:. &#187; DVL Mirror Back Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ***UPDATE*** For those wondering where DVL is, read this note here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ***UPDATE*** For those wondering where DVL is, read this note here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Reguly</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166069</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Reguly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Major Hayden: I&#039;m sure that they would love addition direct download mirrors. To give you an idea of traffic, while I was Slashdotted it was 1 - 1.5TB per day, normally downloads are usually about 100GB per day.  
 
@Will Hughes: At this point the bill is at $1988.25, however the billing period isn&#039;t over, so I just have their sketchy expense tracker to monitor this one, and it&#039;s always 48+ hours out of sync. So I don&#039;t have a final charge yet.  
 
To those who donated: It was greatly appreciated... thank you. 
 
To those with advice for dealing with 1and1: It was also appreciated, I&#039;m currently waiting on a response from them (been waiting 24 hours at this point)... I&#039;m hoping to hear back on Monday.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Major Hayden: I&#039;m sure that they would love addition direct download mirrors. To give you an idea of traffic, while I was Slashdotted it was 1 &#8211; 1.5TB per day, normally downloads are usually about 100GB per day.  </p>
<p>@Will Hughes: At this point the bill is at $1988.25, however the billing period isn&#039;t over, so I just have their sketchy expense tracker to monitor this one, and it&#039;s always 48+ hours out of sync. So I don&#039;t have a final charge yet.  </p>
<p>To those who donated: It was greatly appreciated&#8230; thank you. </p>
<p>To those with advice for dealing with 1and1: It was also appreciated, I&#039;m currently waiting on a response from them (been waiting 24 hours at this point)&#8230; I&#039;m hoping to hear back on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166051</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we ask how much 1and1 charged you for this screwup on their part? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we ask how much 1and1 charged you for this screwup on their part?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166052</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we ask how much 1and1  charged you for this screwup on their part? 
 
(Did the comment system just change to intensedebate? Got a totally different comment form a few minutes ago) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we ask how much 1and1  charged you for this screwup on their part? </p>
<p>(Did the comment system just change to intensedebate? Got a totally different comment form a few minutes ago)</p>
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		<title>By: Major Hayden</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166028</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I help by hosting a mirror for you? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I help by hosting a mirror for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wehner</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-166016</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Wehner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck. Finding a reliable hosting provider is not easy. I feel dreamhost is pretty good! 
 
Stephan </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck. Finding a reliable hosting provider is not easy. I feel dreamhost is pretty good! </p>
<p>Stephan</p>
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		<title>By: spinkham</title>
		<link>http://www.computerdefense.org/2010/07/ive-become-a-cyber-pan-handler/comment-page-1/#comment-165964</link>
		<dc:creator>spinkham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to current bills,  I&#8217;d recommend contacting the BBB or your local government consumer advocate office depending on your location. 
 
For the future, I recommend hosting with sourceforge. 
 
Both Web Security Dojo and Samurai WTF are hosted there, with tons of downloads and no complaints. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to current bills,  I&rsquo;d recommend contacting the BBB or your local government consumer advocate office depending on your location. </p>
<p>For the future, I recommend hosting with sourceforge. </p>
<p>Both Web Security Dojo and Samurai WTF are hosted there, with tons of downloads and no complaints.</p>
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